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Microsoft office would've never expected it. Lol lol
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u/Valuestene Apr 03 '22
I work as a social media manager for a firm, and I try to stay away from this as much as possible. When you're a human, however, it's difficult.
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u/PossibleBuffalo418 Apr 03 '22
social media manager
Also known as a professional shitposter
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u/NRMusicProject Apr 03 '22
Oh, a bullshitter.
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u/risseless I have great taste in movies Apr 03 '22
Did you bullshit last week? Did you TRY to bullshit last week?
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u/megatorm Apr 03 '22
Why stay away from it? It’s working for other brands. Seems bad for business to avoid
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u/cutemommy99 Apr 03 '22
you have to nail the tone, and even if you get it right it's a coin toss whether it will be viewed as funny and relatable or contrived and insincere
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u/ajsparx Apr 03 '22
Not to mention, they also have to conform to "corporate appearance rules" which is a 180° turn from popular culture norms
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u/HyperRag123 Apr 03 '22
If he's the social media manager, he's the guy who gets to decide what those corporate appearance rules are. There's some brands that have very lax rules, like Wendy's
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u/ajsparx Apr 03 '22
True, but they might still get reamed for any bad reactions... Wendy's excepted, because they trailblazed the "corporate-burn" trend, and afaik are gold-tier trolls
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u/seamsay Apr 03 '22
I'll be amazed of they're that far up the totem pole. Usually social media manager is just the person that manages social media, they'll answer to other people that are in charge of brand image and whatnot.
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u/OG_Felwinter Apr 03 '22
Like this? https://vm.tiktok.com/ZTdu9Ex4h/
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u/DM_ME_BANANAS Apr 03 '22
What in the fuck?
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u/OG_Felwinter Apr 03 '22
Yeah I had to double take when I saw that was the official Duolingo account lmao
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u/akrapov Apr 03 '22
I’m unsure if the Duolingo account is genius (and I don’t get it) or insane. But either way people are talking about it. So it works.
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u/madv_willneed Apr 03 '22
It always comes off as contrived and insincere. The question is just whether it's funny enough for people to like it regardless.
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u/Jimid41 Apr 03 '22
A conscience might deter them from displaying a deceptive level of engagement from the company but then again that's their job description.
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u/g0d15anath315t Apr 03 '22
MS can always come back with "Ya got us!" or something and up the humanization factor even more
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u/govi96 Apr 03 '22
wtf is social media manager
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u/DM_ME_BANANAS Apr 03 '22
Somebody who manages the social media accounts of a company, determines the content that gets posted, organizes post schedules etc.
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u/Maximum-Switch5879 Apr 03 '22
I've never seen "silence, brand" put so eloquently.
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Apr 03 '22
I call it Microsoft Orifice. If any product could be an asshole this is it. Constant popups on a computer that already uses the Libre suite.
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u/MonsterJuiced Apr 03 '22
I hate this part about social media. They know the importance of it and every thing they post always comes off incredibly pretentious. Especially when they use popular emotes or slangs just to desperately relate to us.
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u/KavikStronk Apr 03 '22
The worst is regular sponsored ads that try to "blend in" as if it's a normal post/meme
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u/VICARD0 Apr 03 '22
Yeah like the cringe huel ads with the goosebumps meme or the stonks slapped on it, makes me gag every time I see it
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u/Bobonnie Apr 03 '22 edited Apr 03 '22
You're still watching ads? No TV or radio - streaming only adfree services (or piracy), adblock in browser, specific adfree app hacks on phones and if you wanna go the extra mile you can look into pihole to get rid of ads on "smart" TVs and around your network.
Other than the bullshit posters in public spaces (*and the ones hidden in content and comments), I haven't seen an ad in years. I wish people would destroy these more with graffiti, but we're all too busy.
If our world progresses as it does, it might actually be beneficial to our collective good to teach more people about defensive measures against ads.
Sorry for the rant, I used to study and work in marketing, my take away from that: fuck ads.
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Apr 03 '22
You don’t get ads on Reddit mobile? Teach us simpletons
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u/aschapm Apr 03 '22
Other Reddit apps like Apollo don’t have ads
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u/polishtrapqueen Apr 03 '22 edited Apr 04 '22
Switched to Apollo 2 years ago, bought pro, haven’t looked back since. Best way to browse Reddit on IOS
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u/LittleDuckie Apr 03 '22
I use adguard to block ads on all apps. Slide to view Reddit. Vanced (while it still works) for YouTube/music. Ublock origin Firefox plugin works on mobile too.
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u/KavikStronk Apr 03 '22
Oh thanks I normally don't have adblock turned on with all websites so I didn't notice, but you just made me check and apparently I forgot to download adblock again after rebooting my laptop.
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u/bradles0 Apr 03 '22
A low level of advertisement is nice, e.g. I wanted to know about terra Invicta and Sanderson's new books and would know about neither of them without advertisement; there needs to be an interface between the products and the people that want them.
As such I'm fine with the ads in the banner below the YouTube video, or in the sidebar. However the aggressive in your face interrupting ads are unwelcome, e.g. the pre/midroll ads on a YouTube video and the news feed ad posts.
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u/FlixFlix Apr 03 '22
I’m gonna blow a gasket If I see another ad with [MEGATHREAD], I swear.
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u/caananball Apr 03 '22
[MEGATHREAD] TIL T-Mobile offers the largest and fastest 5G network for businesses!
TLDR: FREE SHIPPING on phones with new activation! Some fees may apply.
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u/MrF_lawblog Apr 03 '22
You know there are actual people writing those right?
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u/OrvilleTurtle Apr 03 '22
This is what I was going to say. It’s a human writing that shit … of course they are going to use modern lingo and expressions.
Or OP are you saying the people running these accounts should pretend to be a robot?
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u/JuniorSeniorTrainee Apr 03 '22
They should pretend to be carefully manicured corporate messages. Because they are.
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u/1andro4nicus01 Apr 03 '22
Usually its just a guy the company employed to look friendly on social media.
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u/Dayov Apr 03 '22
They’re not “carefully manicured”. It’s not like the ceo has to sign off on every reply the account manager makes
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u/AlmostCatfood Apr 03 '22
I’m not sure about Twitter but Facebook rewards pages for replying to comments on their post by ranking them higher on their algorithm, so this creepy humanisation of companies is absolutely the best marketing tactic for boosting engagement across these platforms.
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u/Sporkfoot Apr 03 '22 edited Apr 03 '22
Anytime a YouTuber solicits feedback via “sound off in the comments below if you think _______” it is for this purpose alone. They aren’t reading your comments, they just need the Algo boost it provides.
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u/norax_d2 Apr 03 '22
This just made me realize that I am even bad at watching youtube videos.
No comments, no likes, no subscribes.
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u/ZaMr0 Apr 03 '22
What do you expect the social media managers to do. It's literally their job to interact with people. I hated doing it as it always felt so fake but at the very least I tried to seek out comments that I genuinely wanted to respond to, even if I wasn't on a corporate account etc. But yeah either way social media and marketing positions always feel so soulless. Luckily it was just a stepping stone in my career.
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u/wouldgiveyouup Apr 03 '22
for real lol. It's a real human behind the keyboard. Having conversations about the company they work for. Some people probably even enjoy it. People need to get a grip.
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u/NeXtDracool Apr 03 '22
I expect them to find and help solve complaints users couldn't (or wouldn't try to) solve using the official support routes. I expect them to post updates about the status of their services, new announcements, known issues and the like. Of course responding to explicitly being pinged or to responses from their own posts makes sense. Perhaps interact with other relevant brands or conventions to clarify or provide information.
As soon as they insert themselves into a conversation not meant for them to be in they're a rude and unwanted nuisance though.
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u/backstreets_back_ok Apr 03 '22
This is an extremely naive take on what you “expect” social media managers do.
Do you understand HOW many bullshit complaints, weird and strange comments, and pie in the sky requests medium to large social platforms get? Sure, they do their best for the reasonable ones but man those are far and wide.
They DO provide update information - when it’s deemed relevant and worthy for their market. They’re not going to provide every single update.
And you do understand other relevant brands are called “competitors”, right? Unless, in the VERY rare case they are working in conjunction on something, why would they ever reach out to them?
I understand your annoyed and upset, but these people are just regular people doing a job. And many do themselves role their eyes when asked to do stuff like this.
Hope that gives some clarification your highness
Source: work at large creative agency for years
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u/NeXtDracool Apr 03 '22
Do you understand HOW many bullshit complaints, weird and strange comments, and pie in the sky requests medium to large social platforms get? Sure, they do their best for the reasonable ones but man those are far and wide.
Where did you get this weird idea that I expect them to solve all complaints? That's something you just thought up on your own.
They DO provide update information - when it’s deemed relevant and worthy for their market. They’re not going to provide every single update.
Where did you get that weird idea that i expect them to provide every single update? That's another thing you just thought up on your own.
you do understand other relevant brands are called “competitors”,
Ah yes, the classic Microsoft competitors Adobe, Docker and the EIC. All relevant to Microsoft in some contexts and clearly not competitors. Not every related brand is necessarily a competitor. Some are suppliers, some are customers, some simply provide products that work together with Microsoft products.
Hope that gives some clarification your highness
You completely misconstrued what I said into some weird strawman and then pretend like I'm on some kind of high horse. Screw you.
I know that they do all these things to the best of their abilities and they can keep doing them. I just want them to stop the fake smalltalk and to stop trying to appear hip and relatable. Nobody asked for it, nobody wants it.
I understand your annoyed and upset, but these people are just regular people doing a job. And many do themselves role their eyes when asked to do stuff like this.
This is hardly directed at the people actually doing the job, I know they're just normal people. This is directed at the brands that keep forcing their employees into these shitty situations where they're not wanted.
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u/Samreinod Apr 03 '22
Big shut up and dribble vibes
they are not interested in how users use their products??
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u/NeXtDracool Apr 03 '22
Why would Microsoft care what the topic of any single presentation was?
They collect usage information using telemetry and surveys. The number of presentations is way too large for anyone to collect useful information by striking up conversations on Twitter and the social media person who posted that never intended for this information to be used as such. It was simply smalltalk that the user didn't ask for or want and you know it.
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u/SweatyElk1 Apr 03 '22
The fellow kids stuff is corny but to me OKAY, the worst is when companies get people and try to fake authenticity when they’re clearly trying to hard that’s not even corny just straight cringe.
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u/PossibleBuffalo418 Apr 03 '22
What's worse, shitty company accounts on twitter? Or a bunch of detached celebrities led by Gal Gadot singing an off-key rendition of 'Imagine' from the comfort of their giant mansions during the midst of a global pandemic?
2020s are wild
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u/seeasea Apr 03 '22
Everyone mad at Gadot forgets that the original song is just as cringey. John Lennon singing about no possessions on a white on white on white grand piano. Give me a break
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u/PossibleBuffalo418 Apr 03 '22
Yes, he was certainly a "phony" as one Mark David Chapman famously called him
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u/aryvd_0103 Apr 03 '22
The worst was whatever lol did it. They had a 3d cgi fake girl post regularly on an insta account that was supposed to simulate her journey to becoming a pro e sports player . They also tried to make her relatable by making her struggle with depression.
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u/generalthunder Apr 03 '22
Why does this screenshot looks like it is from 1994???
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u/jyunga Apr 03 '22
Why do they reply to someone that didn't @ them? I don't use twitter much but how would anyone have seen his original post?
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u/Audigy1 Apr 03 '22
Plot twist is op actually works for the Office marketing team and this string of tweets was a big brain marketing move.
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Apr 03 '22
Of course it's a marketing tactic? Like, duh. What else would it be?
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Apr 03 '22
I prefer to be insulted by the company when I shop. Since I am overweight, If a company calls me "fatty" or "Tubbo," I know they really value me as a customer.
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Apr 03 '22
Who cares? It's not the corporation posting that, it's some employee. It's a human.
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u/bentendo93 Apr 03 '22
Exactly, and they probably put someone in the role who really likes engaging with people and making them happy. I hate this trend of putting individual employees down. Would you go to Target and yell at someone who said "can I help you find something?" In a cheerful voice?
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Apr 03 '22
I agree. Everybody just wants to have their little gotcha moment so they can post it on social media, look how I roasted this billion dollar corporation, when in reality you probably just made some at work person a little bit sad.
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u/zvug Apr 03 '22
It’s Reddit dude.
We’re all just a bunch of cynical losers sitting at our parents’ house shutting on people who’ve actually done something with their lives.
It’s absolutely par for the course.
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u/PossibleBuffalo418 Apr 03 '22
I love this comment. Not only did you create an imaginary situation to be mad about, you then used it as an excuse to move the goalposts so that people should feel guilty about criticising corporate accounts spamming PR all over social media. A sales person trying to help someone in a brick and mortar store is most certainly not the same as a company account publicly posting on a global platform lmao
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u/NeXtDracool Apr 03 '22
No, they provide a service.
But if that same employee came along to ask me about my purchase choices and what I do with them I'd definitely tell them to leave me with alone. I don't know them and I don't want to hold smalltalk with them.
Seem familiar?
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u/bentendo93 Apr 03 '22
Chili's server: "so what are you guys up to after this? How was your meal today?"
Me: "silence brand!"
I'm sorry, I just can't get behind the "silence brand" movement. What the Microsoft intern posted wasn't inappropriate, and if it really bothered the person I think the better response would be to just ignore it instead of potentially ruin their day
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u/NeXtDracool Apr 03 '22
Idk, seems like a cultural thing to me. I'd be very weirded out by a server asking me what I'm doing after the meal and no server or waiter has ever tried to hold that kind of smalltalk with me. It's business and only business that they talk about.
I know that Americans have smalltalk in business calls before getting down to business and that seems like a similar cultural thing that never happens here. I also know business emails in some cultures are regularly prefaced by pleasantries, which you never see here.
On top of that there is a massive difference between someone you're already talking to, like your server, asking you a superfluous question and a brand like Microsoft anonymously inserting themselves in a conversation.
I disagree with what they posted not being inappropriate. A brand inserting themselves without explicitly being asked for is, in my opinion, inherently inappropriate, no matter how polite.
I do agree that the response was unnecessarily rude though.
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u/bentendo93 Apr 03 '22
Ok, yes I think this does boil down to a cultural thing then. Small talk with waiters and waitresses is pretty much expected where I live, so maybe that's why I don't find this particular Twitter interaction all that weird.
Thanks for the perspective!
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u/cbackas Apr 03 '22
Yeah it’s the same situation, and that’s why it’s perfectly fine.
Staying in touch with what the users of your service do/want to do with it obviously has value. This persons job is to have that conversation, yours is not so you’re able to end that conversation and go about your life.
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u/unoriginalsin Apr 03 '22
Everything a corporation does is ultimately done by "some human."
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u/airyys Apr 04 '22
guys, we can't criticize hitler, he's just "some human"!!11!!
fr tho, the tone deafness of people trying to defend corporate marketing sheesh
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u/crackeddryice Apr 03 '22
While corporations have been given personhood status by law, they aren't yet sentient, fortunately.
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u/CombatMuffin Apr 03 '22
No offense, but Reddit often brings this up as if it was a huge deal. They are considered people as part of a legal fiction to make the concept of a company work in the legal system.
It was done around a hundred years ago, and in many countries is not limited to corporations, but all manner of partnerships.
There's issues with capitalism and corporations. Legal personhood isn't one of them.
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u/Saugasexy420couple Apr 03 '22
A human at histories most benevolent corporation. Bill Gates saved humanity from the tyranny of what IBM had planned for the future. A technocast system where the working class has no internet access and little need for computers. Imagine how fucked up that world would be.
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u/saimerej21 Apr 03 '22
Yeah he rly owned the capitalists there by being a dick to some social media employee
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u/Le_Fedora_Cate Apr 03 '22
I mean, on the bright side they probably didn't take it personally? Since they were dissing the brand and not the person themselves
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u/saimerej21 Apr 03 '22
likely not but its just rude to say shit like that to a guy who probably likes his job and wants to be nice
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u/cock_daniels Apr 03 '22
okay, this isn't a comeback, it's just an insult. now if office replied with a clever burn, that'd be the comeback.
the first insult is the attack. the response would be the comeback. is this really that difficult?! what's next, roasting people who give compliments in r/freecompliments and call it a "comeback" under the same spirit-- that it's clearly patronizing behavior?
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u/rajubhai07 Apr 03 '22
People with these "clever" comebacks on corporate social accounts don't realize they are only talking to a social media intern.
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u/supermariomaster Apr 03 '22
he really showed that unpaid intern
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u/errorsniper Apr 03 '22
There is no way anyone that low on the totem pole would have access to the public face of one of the wealthiest most powerful multinational mega corps that literally provide the software the world runs on.
Its not 2006 any more companies don't let the "unpaid intern" handle their social media.
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u/HelghastFromHelghan Apr 03 '22
It never ceases to amaze me how many people still believe that random interns are running the social media accounts of companies these days.
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u/Bronco4bay Apr 03 '22
That’s because the majority of Reddit doesn’t work for these companies.
Your boomer run random companies of mid size across this country? Can totally see it. Especially after seeing what’s posted on tiktok for branded local business accounts.
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u/ArtisticSell Apr 03 '22
That is because the majority of Reddit does not work. Lets stop there
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u/errorsniper Apr 03 '22
As much as antiwork is a utopian unrealistic circle jerk. The majority of reddit does work. Your being just as bad as them.
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u/ironshadowdragon Apr 03 '22 edited Apr 03 '22
Not working is pretty good. We'd all not do it if we could. Miserable capitalist slave with no free time vs I do what I feel like.
is good
not working is literally the end goal of working lol
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u/beet111 Apr 03 '22
Why the hell does reddit always think unpaid interns have control over a multi-billion dollar companies twitter?
That shit does not happen. They have legitimate jobs for managing social media these days.
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u/thesirblondie Apr 03 '22
As if an unpaid intern would get access to a companys social media account in 2022.
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u/hammeredtrout1 Apr 03 '22
What’s wrong with this tactic? Corporations/companies are just groups of people
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u/Metalgearbz Apr 03 '22
I hate when people act like pointing out marketing is some kind of “gotcha”
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u/ILoveLamp9 Apr 03 '22
This sentiment is so stupid. Yes, a business posting on social media would be nothing other than marketing. You’re not some savant for figuring that out. Get a life.
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u/LateChapter8596 Apr 03 '22
Cheap jibe, not clever
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u/4862skrrt2684 Apr 03 '22
While there is truth to it, when I've done some public replies in the name of place i work, i do like to give a feel of actually being a human. I wouldn't ask about your paper tho, as if i care about that
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u/Surprise_Corgi Apr 03 '22
It's like griping at a drive-thru employee for their fake hospitality. It's their job. It's how they make their living, too. The person writing for the account isn't some AI conglomerate of a corporation. It's just another person, and that's probably the thousandth time some young edgelord thought they'd act wise with a gottem! in reply.
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u/Berntonio-Sanderas Apr 03 '22
"Exaggeration of hard work and dedication to build a public facade on social media and garner superfluous internet points."
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u/ArrowRobber Apr 03 '22
Going over so many people's heads this post is its self advertising.
Being "smart" to spot how MS office is tweeting is not only getting your attention, but getting you to think about it.
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u/wacgphtndlops Apr 03 '22
As if MS gives a fuck.
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u/Afrobean Apr 03 '22
They'd be glad to know this was posted here. Their marketing's reach got a boost thanks to op.
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u/essdoubleU Apr 03 '22
Fuck Microsoft word. It's all about Google docs now
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u/kr0zz Apr 03 '22
Hell nah it ain't tf 🤬🤬🤬
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u/essdoubleU Apr 03 '22
Word costs money
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u/Cybernetic-Ranger Apr 03 '22
LibreOffice is basically free and open-source office. It's great.
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u/imhakushigo Apr 03 '22
well, its quite good, ive been tried using it on linux but god the ui sucks.
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u/FblthpLives Apr 03 '22
Not sure if it matters much, but the response is obviously not from OP, but from a third person. The original exchange seems to be gone, but there is a copy cat version from 2017 here: https://twitter.com/katelynloughlin/status/859791368016846850
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u/redscare162021 Apr 03 '22
Wow what a great comeback! I'm sure their mind is changed, now everything is all better just like in the case of all comebacks we constantly see pasted on here for internet points!
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Apr 03 '22
Plot twist: the guy who runs the account was genuinely interested and just forgot to log out
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u/Afrobean Apr 03 '22
This post here is itself still operating as an advertisement for that corporate brand. Even with someone mocking them in this minor way, it still reminds everyone that this is a popular brand they should pay attention to and think about.
There are open source alternatives like LibreOffice that are just as effective, free to use, and not backed by horrible corporations with misleading advertising practices. We don't have to use their shitty software, we don't have to accept their corporate bullshit.
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u/ThatDudeBesideYou Apr 03 '22
I hope it's less of a comeback and more of his actual paper